Episode 209
Improve Your Mental Health Through Everyday Habits with John Katsavos
Small daily wins can help a man climb out of depression, even when the first win is just a shower. My guest John Katsavos started karate at eight and earned a second-degree brown belt by 12. Heading into junior high, his dad told him to keep his skills quiet or he'd be fighting the whole school. A classmate bullied him for months while his grandmother, who was like a second mother, was dying of lung cancer. When John finally broke down in tears, he decided he was weak. He built a hard shell and let only his mom, dad, and sister inside. In his twenties, he was a security shift supervisor making good money and driving a $40,000 car. Then two guards he supervised walked into a tenant's suite on Christmas Eve, and the company made an example of him. He lost the job, his credit, and his schooling and moved back to his parents' basement. For months he barely left his room and told himself he was useless. He walked to a bridge ready to end his life. He turned back when he pictured what his death would do to his family.
His way back started almost too small to notice. When everyone left the house, he covered the bathroom mirror with a towel so he could wash his face without facing himself. Every other day he walked around the block for fresh air. Months passed before he started applying for jobs, and about a year before he landed one. He got back in the gym. When a dark thought returned one night at work, he went back to martial arts the very next day. John says the seeds can stay even after you feel better, so he stays mindful. Today his morning routine takes about an hour before he turns on his phone. It includes self-care, meditation, reading, morning pages, burpees, pushups, and squats. His advice for a struggling man is simpler. Pick one thing, even washing your face with cold water, and do it every day for three months.
John is honest that hard days still come. Going into this conversation, money was tight and bills were piling up. He knows how to ride those waves because he's done it before. Long before his lowest point, he found his love for the gym. In 10th grade, he was a 100-pound kid riding the bench on the junior football team. He trained every day that summer, came back stronger and faster, and found a confidence he'd never had. That passion later became a career in personal training and his podcast, The Fitness Oracle. Mike Forrester shares that his own morning routine builds trust in himself, proof that he'll get up and do what he said. John's rule is to get the wins early so you can win the rest of the day. If you're a dad who lost the job and can't find your footing, start with one small win tomorrow morning.
What You'll Learn In This Episode:
- Start with one small daily win, like a shower or a walk around the block, to start climbing out of depression.
- Pick one habit and do it every day for three months until it becomes part of you.
- Build a morning routine that gets your wins in before your phone, your job, and your kids need you.
- Recognize that breaking down before a hard moment is a normal human response.
- Stay mindful after a hard season, since old patterns can return even when life looks good.
- See how losing a job can shake your identity and how small steps help you show up again for your wife and kids.
The key moments in this episode are:
00:02:50 - what a man's "nothing box" is and how it brings clarity
00:04:33 - getting through financial stress when the bills pile up
00:06:40 - hiding your strength to avoid a fight
00:14:40 - grieving a grandmother who was like a second mother
00:16:30 - how a summer in the gym built a teenager's confidence
00:21:41 - why trust is hard after you've been hurt
00:23:29 - losing a good job and sliding into depression
00:30:53 - small steps that help you climb out of a dark place
00:34:06 - why old patterns can return after you start to heal
00:36:30 - turning what you love into a career
00:40:32 - how a simple morning routine builds momentum
00:44:43 - why you should stick with one habit for three months
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Connect with John Katsavos
https://www.facebook.com/john.katsavos.39
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LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-katsavos/
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Connect with Mike Forrester