Episode 405

Hypnosis Can Actually Help Men Reprogram Limiting Beliefs with Ryan Christiansen

Published on: 3rd April, 2025

Have you ever felt like you're battling an invisible enemy, constantly sabotaging your own success? In this eye-opening episode, I sit down with Ryan Christensen, a man who discovered his own hidden battles at the age of 48. Ryan's journey of self-discovery led him to uncover the root causes of his struggles, including ADHD, bipolar disorder, and autism.

Ryan's story is a powerful reminder that sometimes, the greatest obstacles we face are the ones we can't see. He shares how understanding his neurodiversity has transformed his perspective on life, relationships, and personal growth. Ryan's story offers hope and practical strategies for those ready to break free from self-imposed limitations and step into their full potential.

Are you ready to uncover the hidden battles within yourself and emerge victorious? Tune in to this transformative episode and take the first step toward authentic self discovery and growth.


In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover how to overcome mental health challenges later in life and reclaim your inner peace.
  • Learn how to use hypnosis for self-improvement and tap into your full potential.
  • Understand the profound impact of childhood experiences on your adult life and how to navigate through it.
  • Uncover the power of changing self-perception through subconscious work and unleash your confidence.
  • Find the path to discovering personal worth and authenticity, unlocking a fulfilling life.


The key moments in this episode are:

00:04:31 - Understanding Self and Embracing Natural Abilities

00:07:36 - Overcoming Past Beliefs and Finding Purpose

00:14:33 - Understanding limiting beliefs and the subconscious mind

00:19:31 - Overcoming the need to justify existence

00:22:45 - Breaking free from the cycle of unfulfillment

00:25:15 - The Insidious Treadmill Trap

00:28:08 - Overcoming Self Sabotage

00:34:58 - Conquering Negative Beliefs

00:46:57 - Overcoming Inner Conflict and Achieving Success


Connect with Ryan Christensen

Website

www.ryanthehypnotist.com

LinkedIn

www.linkedin.com/in/ryanwchristensen

Instagram

www.instagram.com/ryanthehypnotist

 

Connect with Mike Forrester

Podcast Website

https://LivingFearlessTodayPodcast.com

 

Coaching Website

https://www.hicoachmike.com/

 

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/hicoachmike/

 

Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/@hicoachmike

 

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https://www.instagram.com/hicoachmike

Transcript
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Hello and welcome back my friend, and this week I'm joined by Ryan Christensen.

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Sometimes you can fight a battle and not understand what

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it is that you're fighting.

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And Ryan's got that thing as well at 48 discovering, Hey, you know,

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I've got these things that I'm facing, and they make up who you are.

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They can be both a challenge, but they can also be a strength in other areas.

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And so we're gonna kind of dive into sometimes when you don't know

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the battle that you're fighting.

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It can leave you frustrated mentally and emotionally, which can pull you in towards

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depression, anxiety and sometimes I.

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You know, we, we make that ultimate decision and are leaning that direction

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when we don't see another way out.

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And so super excited to jump in because, you know, this is, this is something

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that's more and more common and we as men are really not talking about it.

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But with the clarity that comes, you're gonna hear it from Ryan's

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story, then you're able to really see.

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Life looks like the environment you're in and how you engage with it, because

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it can be different than what you know, if you have a manual in life

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and says, Hey, these are the rules.

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The way that you see things and the way that you're interacting

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with things can be different.

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So really excited to jump in with Ryan here and kind of get a

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picture of how we can determine.

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What the landscape looks like, and then how to like then let that

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impact our worth and our value and how we see ourselves as well.

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So Ryan, how are you doing today, my friend?

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Doing really well.

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Thanks for having me on.

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It's an honor to be here.

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Absolutely.

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And I've enjoyed our conversation.

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Just, you know, talking about what we've experienced, you know.

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I was 40 when I found out about dyslexia.

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You were, like I said, 48, kind of that later in life.

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But you've gone through life enough not knowing some of the challenges

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that you're facing and why your perspective is set up that way.

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So, um, let's, let's jump off with what it does look like now, now

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that you have more of the insight, what does life look like for you?

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On the professional side of things, man?

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Oh.

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For the audience, like I have a DHD, I have bipolar disorder and I have autism.

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Um, I'd always had the D ADHD figured out.

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That was always pretty obvious.

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Um, didn't start getting treated with that until beginning of 2023, and that's what

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led to my first bipolar manic episode.

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Um, pretty severe one.

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Uh, ended up having a psychotic break getting arrested, and after

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that it's like, okay, lemme ahead.

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Make sure there's no other landmines down there that ims.

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You know, I was watching Love on the Spectrum as a show on Netflix and talking

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about a guy there 62 years old, got diagnosed with autism two years before.

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I'm like, man, that would really suck.

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Like I how living through life and not really knowing.

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I was like, wait a second, I do that, I do that, I do that, I do that.

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So I took a couple online tests.

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I said, yes, you probably got Aspir.

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Alright, cool.

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I kind of checks that box, but hadn't really given it much thought

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or much weight because pretty well

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having those diagnosis and actually having that confirmed.

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Was really a kick in the pants.

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Really kick in the pants because now I had to sit down and say, okay, who I

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thought I was up until now was a lie.

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I was wrong in some really big ways, in some really big ways.

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And it's like, okay, cool.

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So now what does this mean?

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I have to go back and look back at my life from this different angle

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of, okay, why was I doing this?

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Oh, this was a compensation for this.

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Oh, this is why this didn't work.

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Oh, this bipolar stuff.

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All my like professional networking and office politics stuff was so

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bad because I'm bipolar and you get me frustrated and I'm popping off.

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You know, it just like all these kinds of things play.

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It's like, oh, no wonder I wasn't really particularly good at being

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Marine or being an airman because that is not the environment for

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somebody who's autistic or bipolar.

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Like that is not the space.

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Right?

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Oh, no wonder all of my relationships were a complete mess.

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Check.

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Undiagnosed, unmedicated, serious mental health issues.

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Of course, that's.

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But on the back of it, you know, after I'm doing that, I'm kind of at the

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same time figuring out this medication bipolar, it's like, okay, great.

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So, uh, who am I then that was really interesting question.

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It's like, who am I?

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I like, well, I dunno.

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And the thing that I really kind of realized is, you know, one of the things

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I talk about with my clients is like, what part of you is you, you got your

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conscious mind, your rational mind, your instinct of mind, your emotional mind.

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You got your neurochemistry, got your physical body, start

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getting a little more esoteric.

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You talk about like having an emotional body, uh, somatic work, having energetic

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body as your body got your soul.

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What?

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Okay.

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Well, to me, I'm all of that probably more.

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If that's the case, then there's no actual way for me to understand and

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comprehend the totality of what that is.

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So it's not possible for me to then maybe you just stop asking a question.

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Right?

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It's impossible that that's a dumb, just that's not right.

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But you still have to figure out how to navigate life.

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And what I kind of understood later on was like, okay, everywhere has.

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Every structure in your brain has a different function.

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Everyone needs to understand the world and reality and everything else

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to the extent necessary to his job.

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Same thing with self.

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All these different aspects only really needed to understand the

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totality of self to extent necessary to his job, which means on every

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level you know exactly what you are,

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you know, all of it.

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Consciousness doesn't really need to know a whole lot 'cause it only has two jobs.

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Point the direction.

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I wanna go that way and be the witness.

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My experience.

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Watch the movie my life way out in real time.

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If I decide to go get groceries, I make that decision.

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Magic happens.

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My job's done right.

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My job's done.

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I just could to watch the show.

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Okay, great.

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So maybe I'll just be me and do what comes natural, right.

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I'm built the way I am.

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I am who I am.

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I'm exactly who I'm, I don't have to worry.

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I got people to handle that.

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If I need to know, it'll lemme know.

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But that partly came from doing a lot of deep work and building that bridge

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again with my unconscious mind, clearing out all that junk, clearing out all

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the bad beliefs, and building that team back up the way I needed to so I could

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actually trust myself on both ends.

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Right?

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Because part of the thing that happens is when we've got that friction with

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ourselves, our mind doesn't trust us and we don't trust our mind our,

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that makes it really hard because it means can't trust your judgment

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and can't let and can't listen.

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That's what causes all the problem is not being able to trust yourself

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on all those different levels.

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Having that friction not understanding.

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So

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how,

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how did you go about, you know, like, we'll hear about

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self-awareness, right, Ryan?

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And, uh, you gotta be self-aware, but this seems like it's more,

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you're even beyond self-awareness.

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So how, how did you kind of like.

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Take assessment, I guess is the best way.

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How did you take account and figure out like, hey, these are the things that

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I'm working with to then be able to, you know, like you talked about, looking at

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your beliefs that are built in from your experiences and everything like that.

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What was the first step in figuring out like, hey, this is what I am, I'm facing?

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Well, fundamentally it was, it was interesting because I actually did all

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the work to like fix everything before I figured out that bipolar, autistic.

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So by the time that Deion came around, I was like, oh, okay, cool.

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Like this, this fits in check.

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I'm good to go.

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Right?

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So I didn't have to do the work afterwards.

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I'd actually done the work before to clear all those, and it was

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just fitting these new information into that existing framework.

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Right?

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Okay.

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But it really kind of started like artistic world doesn't work for me.

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Same way it does everybody else rules are not the same.

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Grew up in Kansas, seventies, eighties, nobody idea what wrong with.

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Never gonna get what I need, never gonna get what I want.

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Just not possible, right?

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So I'm just gonna suffer for the rest of my life, period.

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And so, gave up on life really young, but your mind exists to keep your breathing.

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Doesn't really keep you happy, doesn't care about if you're happy or not.

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So it has to find a reason to keep you going.

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Fair enough.

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Reading a lot.

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I like military fiction, science fiction, fantasy.

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So you know, star Trek, star Wars, a whole nine yards.

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And that idea of like heroic sacrifice was a big part of my concept in the world.

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Okay, fine.

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I'm gonna suffer forever.

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Fair enough.

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So I'll just become Batman.

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Batman, life sucks.

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Good things around, right?

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There would be purpose and reason for me to be alive if I could

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be useful to that greater good.

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Right?

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Serving community, protecting, yada, yada.

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That's what took me down the road of like Marine Corps International

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Guard, the intelligence war.

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22, 23 years in it's 20 19, 20 20.

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I'm realizing, uh, the world doesn't want to be safe.

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I'm clearly the wrong line of business, right?

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I'm sitting here throwing myself on the bus, not getting my I need, and it's

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for basically nothing in a lot of ways.

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You know, I'm doing good work, doing really cool things.

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Definitely make a difference.

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But fundamentally, it's not, it's not a needle.

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So it's like, okay, great.

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Now I have to find another reason to live.

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'cause the reason I have, don't work anymore.

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That's really kind of what started me down that road is

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like, okay, this isn't working.

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Lemme start working with people 1 0 1.

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I was in some coaching groups trying to figure out dating

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again after my second divorce.

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Stuff is just simply not working.

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It's like, this is not working.

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I've gotta figure this out.

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Let's roll.

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But I didn't even understand that whole like reason to live

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thing until like two years later.

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Until until 2021.

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Right.

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2020. I was building business, getting.

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I'm really gonna say, wait, I'm just not getting what I need in the world.

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I like, I'm just not, it's not working.

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And that's the point.

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As I said, I will do whatever the hell I need to figure this out.

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I will do whatever it takes to fix this.

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I don't care.

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And so that's when I started really going down like coaching and

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psychedelics and spiritual stuff.

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Energetics and fricking everything, right?

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And it was that first psyched retreat that I did that really broke

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things open in a big way for me.

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You know, I'd had this realization before it's like, oh, I actually have value.

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That's an interesting concept.

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Never really thought about that before.

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But this retreat, you know, did some mdma, some psilocybin and, and it's

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like, they're like, man, I feel amazing.

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So hopeful.

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This great life is amazing.

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Can't wait to see what I build.

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And it's like, oh shoot.

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That's the first time I can actually remember feeling that way in my life.

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And that's when I realized like, oh my God, I've actually been, life has not been

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living worth living up until that point.

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Actually not worth living up until point, right?

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Broke me crowed for like half hour, 45.

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So I got a tattoo on my chest.

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I'm alive July 29th, 21, because that's the first day it actually

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was worth living for me.

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Right?

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Like actually possible.

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Not that I could give, not that, but possible that point's

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like, okay, the solution exists.

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Dunno what it is, but it's possible.

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Fair enough.

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Go to war.

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Start digging around just.

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You know, and it was that process of like, okay, tried all these things, not fixed.

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Things are better.

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I ain't fixed yet.

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And in a lot of ways I was very lucky because the autism

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means I can't lie to myself.

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Can't pretend, can't pretend the better equals fixed, right?

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So, fair enough, we're not there yet.

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So sit down, reverse engineer every fricking thing out there, every

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modality, every system, everything.

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I did figure out why it didn't work, what the assumption, how

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it's missing.

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About beliefs, about the subconscious mind.

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So was it that drive to find the answer now that you had

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experienced something different?

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Because I mean, yeah, you'd, you'd gone through the depression,

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you know, suicidal I ideation.

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Um, was it from that experience that it was like, oh, hey, wait,

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there is something different and I've just experienced it, so now I

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want to figure out how to make this.

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My everyday reality.

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Was it kind of that drive to figure out what the, the gap was there?

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Sort of, it's kind of like

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the reason you end up in that space where you wanna end, things you

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wanna give up is because you already tried everything and it doesn't work.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know, people are not there.

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It's not a cry for help.

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No.

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They've already gotten as much help as they can.

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They've already tried to make things and just doesn't work.

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Right.

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And so the most powerful thing, the most necessary thing at

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every step of the way is hope.

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Hope isn't one thing that gets you through everything, and having that experience

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was just like unbelievably powerful.

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Like, I made fret, I felt amazing.

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Everything was possible.

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, if this is possible because I just experienced that thing in an undeniable

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way, then there's hope a solution exists.

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It's possible to feel this way, which means it's possible

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to get what I need in life.

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All right.

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Now I know it's possible.

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Just gotta figure out how.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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And part of the thing is like, I am just a stubborn son of a gun.

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I grew up, my mom was I, my mom says she didn't give away and we're stubborn.

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And it's like, no, I took it all.

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And then you couple that with being in the Marine Corps, right?

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And the Marines have a very much like this.

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This is unbelievable.

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Like if that needs to be done, it's gonna fricking happen.

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I don't care what's in, needs to go away enough.

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Right.

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So when you combine those two things, plus that whole survival

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drive of, oh, I can keep myself alive and I should make it worth it.

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Now, figuring that out is a matter of life and death from a guy who

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refuses to fricking quit and give up.

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'cause if a solution exists, I can find it.

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It's just a matter of time.

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Just a matter of work.

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Right.

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So a way I've navigate life and just reverse engineer the grip of everything.

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I just gotta figure out what's missing.

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So how did you.

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Start then going after that where you're like, okay, hey,

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I'm gonna reverse engineer it.

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Mm-hmm.

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How did you reverse engineer it to figure out what, to first start

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trying, you know what I mean?

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You've gotta start with something.

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Sure.

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But where do you start?

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Well, fundamentally, like at that point, I'd been doing hypnosis work for a year

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and a half, two years at that point.

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And so my, the work that I'd been doing for myself and my clients

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was all based on limiting beliefs.

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And I knew that the, that the real big problems were down that

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subconscious level, conscious stuff is easy to understand, easy to fix.

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Oh, you didn't understand this.

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Great.

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Here's how this thing works.

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Here's how navigate this.

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Great.

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The problem is what's going down on, down below that we don't have visibility into.

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That happens before we even consciously aware of things.

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The way in our mind is interpreting the world, presenting the world to

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us, how it's generating all these emotions and feelings and thoughts,

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how it's driving all these behaviors.

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Okay?

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That's based on what it believes.

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Things.

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What things?

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Things mean things.

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Because what things mean determine how you react.

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Fair enough?

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Great.

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We can explore that.

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I'm an Intel guy, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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My job is to figure out stuff people doesn't want me to know, and usually I

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have to guess where that information is and you're trying to keep it from me.

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That's really hard.

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But if I got hypnosis, the entire point is get access to your subconscious mind,

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and every answer they need is in there.

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Your mind knows exactly what's doing this stuff, knows exactly what it's

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trying to accomplish, knows exactly what's trying to protect you from,

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knows exactly why it came to be that that's, that was necessary.

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There's nothing to figure out.

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There's no mystery.

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The answer's right there.

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I just gotta figure out how to ask the right questions

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because I ask questions.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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I was just gonna say, how did you.

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Hypnotize yourself to then ask the questions.

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I mean, it's, I guess that's the tricky, like when I see, what's that?

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Mm-hmm.

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That's the tricky piece.

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I couldn't

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Okay.

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'cause that's where I was like when, so you had to get somebody

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to come in and do it for you.

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Okay.

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'cause I was like going, seems like hypnosis is kind of like

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you're detached and just kind of.

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Uh, chilled.

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I don't know the detached and chilled is the right way, but you're kind of my

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state of mind.

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Yeah.

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And it's like your unconscious mind is in the driver's seat, right.

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So you can't be both conscious and unconscious at the same time.

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You can't really do brain surgery.

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Driving myself.

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It doesn't work.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's like if you're driving the bus and sitting in the Baer seat, I was like,

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doesn't work.

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Yeah, it doesn't work.

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Right.

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But the other piece is this.

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If there's friction between you and your mind, you and your unconscious

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mind don't trust each other.

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Right.

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So why would let you change and all the changes you wanna.

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You do that thinks is bad, wrong, or dangerous in some way.

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So why the heck would it let you change it?

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Why it's so hard to do all that stuff?

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Why?

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'cause it ain't gonna let you.

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Why?

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Because it thinks it's doing the right thing.

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And a lot of ways it's based on how it understands stuff,

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based on a larger perspective.

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And again, what my mind doing?

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Trying to keep me breathing?

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Yeah.

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It's trying to protect you from what it it perceives as harm.

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Um.

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Yeah.

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'cause the threat was me.

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Hmm.

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Threat was me not wanting to be here.

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Not.

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So when you met with a hypnotist, how did you guide them in, like

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what you were wanting to uncover or,

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uh, kind of like a few of those type people that I worked with, like the

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stuff that I was coming up with, um, was in their ballet way of how to

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help me navigate it and figure it out.

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For some of them it was like, okay, I've gotta set the problem up in

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a way that they can understand, so can use the techniques that.

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But the most powerful set of tools, kind of like later on, once I kind of like

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understood, okay, here's what the problem is, here's how, here's how to fix it.

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Here's like, I get it.

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Now I know what to do.

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There's a set of techniques called conversational hypnosis, and basically

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it's a set of techniques where I can get you in kind of a light

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trans state to where you can kind of do the work on your own, right?

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Because a lot of times consciously you know what to do and you

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know the frameworks, right?

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But it doesn't penetrate down that deeper part of your mind.

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So lot of ways it's getting a place where like, okay, lemme ahead

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update stuff with the stuff I.

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So if I know what's wrong, I know how to fix it.

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I know where to go.

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Cool.

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Gimme a state where I can do this work for myself.

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And that was incredibly powerful.

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Right?

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I remember one session in particular, um, again, got to

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a point, wanna be alive, great.

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But about a year later, I'm sitting there like banging my head against the

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wall, trying to become an entrepreneur, trying to figure out what to be and

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how to measure, stuff like that.

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Trying to figure out, and I'm sitting,

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I'm come up reason to live,

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but I.

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So why do I need a reason?

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And it hit me.

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I was like, wait a second.

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I don't have to justify my existence anymore.

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I don't have to justify being on the planet anymore.

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Right?

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And that realization was so fricking powerful.

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And so it broke my brain so hard.

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I felt like I was on psychedelics for three days.

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I'm serious.

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Well, if you think about it like that was like the fundamental guiding

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principle for my entire fricking life.

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That was the one biggest possible thing that my mind had

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to accomplish every single day.

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Give myself a reason to live, wasn't necessary anymore, which means

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this entire structure is not wrong.

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So it's gotta go away.

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Yeah.

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Which means my brain now has to reformulate its entire fricking approach

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to everything based on this new idea of like, oh, I don't have to do that anymore.

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Great.

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So it's gotta do a lot of work to do that.

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Mm-hmm.

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Right.

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Psychedelics, you're in that alter state.

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You the neuroplasticity, hypnosis, you're in the neuro ultra state.

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You got the neuroplasticity.

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Your brain's gotta do a lot of stuff, so I'm like, I'm just

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not gonna do anything major.

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I'm Netflix for a.

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After that, a couple more experiences.

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I pretty much passed everything, you know, and over time, like understanding more

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about kind of emotions and how they work and how to play with that understanding

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worth and self-esteem in some new ways.

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And then the whole journey through the bipolar episode taught me a lot about

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free will and how your mind can manipulate and play with you kind shape your right.

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Because if emotions are pain, they're pain and pleasure, that means it's got

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a carrot and stick and you use to guide you manipulate your decision making.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So

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that's a whole different story to play with.

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Yeah.

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Whole different thing.

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Whole different kettle fish.

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Yeah.

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So one thing that I've heard from guys when, , they don't necessarily

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understand what's driving them, right.

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And they've forgotten stuff is like, Hey Ryan, um.

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You know, I don't know that I want to unbury what I buried and you

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know, dig up those memories and those things that are driving you.

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The thing is they're driving us.

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It's beneficial to us.

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What do you tell those guys?

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Because whether it's conscious or unconscious, we're being driven,

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. Number one, I can understand.

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Not wanting to go back there again.

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Emotions are pain.

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Been through a lot of negative emotion, massive pain.

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You're built to avoid pain.

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Yes.

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It's how things work.

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Right.

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And when you've had that level of heavy, negative experience early in

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life, especially your mind begins to interpret that emotional pain as

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physical pain as a threat to survival.

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Threats for physical survival.

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Because in a lot of ways it's right.

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It really is.

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So now it has to guide you and, and essentially keep you away from situations

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that would push that emotional button.

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Right?

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Great.

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So now there's all this stuff you can't engage with and can't go

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play with because it's too painful.

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Right?

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Just too, yeah.

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Right.

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So here's the deal.

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If you're being driven by pain, your mind has gotta stick it to me.

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We do.

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And say on

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Right, which means you don't actually live.

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Goal after goal, after goal, build, build, build, and you

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never actually get what you need.

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Don't have satisfaction, you don't actually get live life.

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Right.

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What happens is we usually get to place where it's like, okay, wait a second.

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I'm checking all the boxes.

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I got the car and the job and the house and the girl.

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Why the hell do I feel the way I feel?

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Yeah, I'm supposed to feel good.

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I don't know how I feel good.

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And that's the point where you should start looking for answers

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because stuff doesn't make sense.

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Ain't working this way.

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It's supposed to,

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it's supposed to work this way.

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It don't work that way.

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How does it work?

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And at that point it's like, okay, you make the decision of I will face what

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I need to in order to figure it out

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because I

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have

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to.

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Right.

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So how do you take somebody through that when it's like they are stuck on that?

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I mean, I, I almost see it as like this Oregon trail, you know, kinda

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rut where it's like you can't escape, you think you're on the right path.

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It doesn't feel right, but it's like you've been told, Hey, this is, this is

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the, the path you should go to experience euphoria and the life that of your dreams.

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But yet there's that disconnect.

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How, how do you get somebody outta that rut to then see.

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Hey, no, there's actually this other route that you can be on that's

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actually more aligned with who you are and, and what you're wanting.

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It's actually frighteningly simple.

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Frighteningly simple, okay?

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Fundamentally, the place I get my my clients to is a place where there's

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nothing wrong with being there ever was.

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There's nothing here that ever was good enough as am deserve, whatever shoes

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don't have to prove myself, right?

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That's fundamentally where you wanna.

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Can you say those four again?

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Yeah, sure.

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There's nothing wrong with me and there never was.

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There's nothing to heal and there never was.

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I'm good enough as I am to deserve whatever I choose, and I don't have to

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prove it to anybody, not even myself.

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Right?

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Here's what, here's what that trap is.

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Talk about my book about two different traps of cage and treadmill cages.

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Easy see, not able to go after what you medi, right?

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Everything worth living outside.

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Much trickier because it's got that thing that you're saying, right?

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You've got this Batman origin story, right?

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And you found a way out.

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You found a way out.

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You got something, some way to get yourself the heck outta the situation.

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Academics, athletics, business, military, right?

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Give me out, right?

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So you find, aha, now I have a thing to get, and you're good at it.

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You like it rewarded for.

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You're getting everything society says you should be.

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So there's no indication that anything's wrong except that little voice inside.

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That's why it's such an insidious trap.

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But the trick to recognize that is you can't take your foot off the gas

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because if you do all them journalists, demons catch up to you, keep on chasing

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the carrot or you get the stick.

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So it's almost like you're, you're trying to escape Gotham, but you've got Yeah.

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All the underworld chasing you.

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So if you rest, you're gonna get caught.

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Is that Yeah, accurate.

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Hundred percent.

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Because the thing I'm from is in how get away from stuff in your head.

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You can't

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Medicate.

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Right, right.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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So what do you do?

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Okay, crap.

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Now I'm stuck in, it's like now I, now I understand that I'm trapped.

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Perfect.

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Wonderful.

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That's actually the easiest space to be because now you

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understand there's a problem.

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You're willing to face it.

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The hardest part is work is to be willing to face and accept the things

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about yourself you don't think are true.

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Don't wanna be true that you don't like.

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Okay?

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And the trick there is we're seeing the world through two different

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lenses simultaneously at all times.

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Rational and emotional.

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Left and right brain, okay?

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Rational mind, familiar with it.

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Everybody knows how things works.

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Your emotional mind is looking at pattern patterns over time.

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Theirs run through things.

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It's looking at the forest rather than the trees.

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Okay.

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Right.

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Different perspective, different tools, which means that both of these things

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are true and correct at all times.

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Even if they're different.

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I don't feel like I'm good enough.

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Why?

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Because from that perspective, you ain't even if you prove yourself right?

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And that's what the treadmill is.

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I don't like who I am.

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I don't think I'm good enough.

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I don't think I deserve, I don't.

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How do I prove that feeling wrong?

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Gotta find a way to prove it wrong.

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But your unconscious mind just as true falls based on what Ari beliefs.

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So if the belief is, I'm not good enough, there's no way

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to succeed your way out of it.

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Can't prove it wrong.

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So from what I've experienced and I've seen other guys go

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through, it's almost like you'll self-sabotage to prove those beliefs.

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Correct.

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Um, how, how are you through like hypnosis mm-hmm.

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Helping yourself to be aware of it, to then be like, no,

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I'm not gonna self-sabotage.

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Instead I'm going to prove the.

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Alternate case, right?

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Right.

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So I believe that every time I try something, I fail.

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So instead, you're working to prove when I start something, I succeed.

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How are you impacting that on a sure subconscious level?

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First thing to recognize is if you're trying to prove something to

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yourself, you don't believe it's true.

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The only thing we have to prove are things we'll be your true.

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So by saying, oh, I, I, I always, I can find ways to prove, ah,

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you already don't believe that.

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Right?

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The problem is we're looking at things from a very left brain perspective.

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Individual issues, individual problems, individual events, individual traumas.

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I see this thing here right in front of my face.

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Perfect.

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Which means we're not seeing the forest, we're not looking at the

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emotional construction, right?

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So first things first is like, okay, back up.

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Look at the pattern over time.

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What does a narrative that's been running through your life, because that's such

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true on that emotional level, right?

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And the thing about hypnosis is, again, all the answers

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are in the back of your head.

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We don't have to guess.

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It knows exactly how that came from.

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You gotta ask the question right way.

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Great.

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You're not allowing yourself to succeed in living life as kind of a general concept.

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Great.

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What problem are you trying to solve by doing that?

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'cause there's no such thing as self-sabotage doesn't exist.

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Not getting what you want, getting what you need.

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We're judging our, I consciously chose this.

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Great.

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That's one aspect of self.

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You're much more than that.

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There's other parts of you have to tip your needs.

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I wanna live a good life.

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I gotta keep you breathing.

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Much more important.

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Right.

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Much more important.

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Right.

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So, and the, so the problem there is like, we're judging the results based

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on what you've chosen, and we don't actually understand the totality of what's

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happening, what our actual needs are.

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Fair enough.

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So show me the problem you're trying to solve By not allowing

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me to live a good life.

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Just let it walk us through, for example, in life of what that problem is.

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And the thing is, we don't have to know.

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Yeah.

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There's no real way for us to know, but that's okay because there's no mystery.

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It knows the problem.

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It knows exactly what It's, knows exactly why it's there.

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Knows exactly what's trying to do.

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So we just gotta give it the opportunity to tell story.

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This thing happened.

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Wonderful.

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How did you feel about what's happening?

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Because that tell you emotional about how world works and how yourself am.

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If I'm weak and powerless and can't protect myself and the

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world is dangerous, that means I gotta navigate it a certain way.

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Gotcha.

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Right?

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Oh, I can't figure this out.

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Something's wrong with me.

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Great.

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If there's something wrong with me, means I'm broken.

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Broken things aren't valuable.

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I'm not good enough.

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Can't measure up.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Becomes really simple to see that stuff, right?

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And fundamentally, there's only a few things we really need to fix.

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We all kind of get that idea of I'm not good enough.

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There's something wrong with me, I don't deserve, right?

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And the reason we sell sabotage and kind of prove this stuff right,

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is because we don't let ourselves have things we don't deserve.

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Your unconscious mind, and whenever you're young, up until about four or

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five, six years old, you don't really have a lot of the same tools we do when

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we're older to understand the world.

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It's pretty much that emotional mind.

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That's pretty much all we got.

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So you, you're drawing conclusions about yourself in the world based

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on it's general trends, okay?

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Mm-hmm.

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If you're growing up, things don't work.

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Chaotic household, whatever happens to be lack, you don't,

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you can't get what you need.

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You can't figure things out.

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Well, it must be you.

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Which means there's gotta be something wrong with me and I'm

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not getting well, that must mean I'm not good enough to deserve it.

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Okay?

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So you create these conclusions when you're really young

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and you don't understand the world very well, guess what?

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As soon as that becomes your truth, that's what everything is compared against,

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right?

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And so how do you discover those patterns that you talked about?

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Is it when you're facing something and it doesn't quite go right?

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And the messages that you say to yourself, is that a pattern or what's

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it's like, okay, man, this thing happened again, man, I'm just not good enough.

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That's right.

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Oh, there's something wrong with her emotional conclusion.

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Right.

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Not emotion.

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What's that trying to do?

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Trying to prove yourself good enough.

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So it's not about the accomplishments at all, not what you did or didn't do at all.

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The emotional conclusion drew way back when if I have decided that I'm

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not good enough, I have concluded that I'm not good enough, and because

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I've concluded I've not good enough, then obviously I don't deserve.

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So the trick is to figure out worthy drew that conclusion in the first place.

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Understand how you drew that conclusion on that emotional

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level, and then prove it wrong.

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You have to disassemble that chain of logic that created that.

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First, you have to prove that well, one wrong first, and then

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you can draw a new conclusion.

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You can create, I'm not good enough to, I'm good enough.

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The difficulty is like you've got a big box in your head.

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Label on the side says, I'm not good enough.

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There's a million things in that box.

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Standard approach takes stuff up, stick it a different box, and that works.

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There's a million things in the box.

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More stuff gets added every day, so that never ends.

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Yeah, it just never ends, right?

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But there's a label on the box.

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Take off a label.

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I'm not good enough.

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Put a label that says I'm good enough and you're just done.

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Because everything in the box now means I'm good enough

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because that's how the box works.

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And so essentially you're redefining your version of who you are and

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you're worth from the beginning.

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Because if, again, if you're looking at patterns over time, great.

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I'm 48, 49 years old.

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I'm successful now.

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Have been for five years, which means for 45 years I wasn't.

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10% of my life, I'm good enough, which means the other 90% I ain't.

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And if you're looking at friends over time, weight of

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evidence is not good enough.

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So you've gotta change it from the beginning forward.

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But the beautiful thing is once you do that, you've rewritten a

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story of your entire life from that different perspective.

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You've always been good enough, you've always deserved.

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This wasn't available for you, couldn't figure it out.

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It's not a matter of me.

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Don't need to fix this.

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How do I navigate that?

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How do I get what I need out there?

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Can't change the fact I'm autistic.

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Can't change the fact I'm bipolar.

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Can't change the fact that I'm adhd.

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Can't.

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It's just that's, that stuff's wired.

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Nothing I can do about that given how I'm wired.

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Everything's working exactly how it should.

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Mm-hmm.

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So how do I need to navigate that as a result of this?

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Right.

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So if, if you look at it and like you talked about, hey,

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the last five years, right?

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You've been a success.

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If you don't change the beginning from that point backwards, are you still

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left looking at it as like the other shoe is gonna fall and you're just

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waiting for things to go back to what the truth is about, you know, yourself?

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Is that kind of where it leaves you if you, if you don't do that work?

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Kind of, yeah.

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It, it, it leaves you with the conclusion is still the same if I'm not good enough.

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'cause for 90% of life I was.

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Because we're looking at trends over time, weight of evidence is not good enough.

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But the other piece is this.

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It's incredibly fragile place to be because what happens if your business

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goes under, you're an athlete, you blow out your knee career's over.

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Now what?

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That was the one thing you were using to prove that you were good enough

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and now you don't have anymore.

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Oops.

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Yeah.

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Unexpected things do happen.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And you see it all the time.

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Guys get out, out of the athletics, they just fall apart outta the military.

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Fall apart.

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Got entrepreneur really well, his business goes down, falls apart,

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see it all the time because that was the one thing they were using to

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justify and keep themselves going.

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So how, how long does it take to be able to say like, okay, now.

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Okay.

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It wasn't me that's broken.

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It was the environment or the situation or the person that I was in, um, you know,

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relationship with that part was broken.

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How long does it take from realizing that stuff and then to see like it manifest

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in your life differently to play out where you're not believing those things

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ridiculously fast.

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Nothing wrong with me, never was nothing heal, never was.

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Emotions.

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Longer, longer pain.

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They don't come from emotional wounds.

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Yeah.

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So there's nothing to heal.

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Never was.

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If you're not thinking that's busted, there's nothing to fix.

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There never was.

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Right, right there.

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90% of this stuff is done.

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Oh, by the way, you need to fix yourself or you need to heal yourself.

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That's means you're broken.

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You broken things, be valuable.

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Not really

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how you have supposed to have healthy self-esteem if you're broken.

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Right.

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So now we can create a healthy self-esteem.

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We can create value.

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Gotta do it in a way that doesn't have to be measured because you're measuring

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the answer could always be not enough.

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I got five minutes, he's got 10, I could flip three 50.

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He can 400, right?

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And so since there's only a few things we really need to, to correct it, really

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need to fix doesn't really take long.

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Then the fear of, Hey, I don't wanna open Pandora's box is a moot point.

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Because it's like you're not uncovering all that stuff.

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You're just changing the labels, right?

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Yeah.

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Basically, like you, you're using these events in time to tell the story

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of a problem you're trying to solve.

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Tell the story about the co conclusions true about yourself in the world.

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Okay.

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Which means we don't have to feel it and re-experience it.

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'cause the emotional, the emotional experience isn't necessary.

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It's a story, right?

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It's right.

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But is.

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Everything that's down there, yes.

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You're scary, you're scared of it because you've already seen SMO stuff

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and like, oh my God, this if I remember this, like, what else is down there?

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Right.

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And it's entirely possible that yes, your mind is protecting you from stuff, right?

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I've had clients who realize, oh my God, I was sexually abused.

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Didn't remember it because it wasn't safe for them to know that.

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Right.

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But their, my, their life had been shaped with that, right?

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Cool.

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So your mind will show you what's safe, whatever you actually need to understand

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what you need, what you can handle.

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So it's not gonna show you anything you can't handle.

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Because it's been protecting you the whole time anyway.

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But sometimes you need that piece of information to really make things work.

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And that's fine.

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But here's the other thing.

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You've already survived it.

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Yeah.

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It's already done as much damage as it possibly can.

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What else is gonna happen?

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Right?

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Yeah.

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The worst that's gonna happen is you're gonna understand why you, things are

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the way they are, which is exactly what you want in the first place.

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So the worst possible case scenario is you get exactly what

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you want, which is understanding.

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Right.

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And sometimes you gotta have these conversations ahead of time.

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Like there's one guy that I was working with recently, he'd been

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through, like, he'd been abused all his entire life, right?

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And he'd gone to psychologist, done a lot of work, really gotten nowhere, came

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in, was really wanting to do the work.

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Couldn't get anywhere, couldn't get anywhere, couldn't go see anything.

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So it took about like six sessions of just like working with this guy and

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playing with stuff and trying and like figure out like what's in the way,

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what's afraid of, and kind of navigating all this stuff to the point where he

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could go down there and take a look at.

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As soon as we got there, one through three sessions, boom, we're done.

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But sometimes it takes a lot of work to get you there, which is

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why I don't do things by sessions.

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You sign up with me, I get you a particular point.

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I don't care what, how many sessions we need.

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I don't care what it takes.

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Don't care what we gotta do.

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We'll get you here.

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This is what you've asked me to do.

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Marine Corps.

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I an infected, I will regular you there.

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I'll argue you there if I kicking, scream if I have to, right?

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But fundamentally, I'm gonna do that.

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So it's just, you've already made the decision.

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It's just a matter of doing the work.

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And making the decisions the most important piece of that.

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It's actually the hardest thing is making that decision to do it.

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Yeah, and it's, it's interesting sometimes our, uh, as you were talking about this

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with a client, it's like, I'm thinking about like the whole thing with, uh.

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Like the mino tar and the maze, just how our mind will protect us.

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So

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yeah, it's, oh God, it's so good at it and is doing it.

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Yeah.

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In our best interest, in the best possible way it can.

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So it gives us everything.

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It can, everything's safe.

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Right.

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So it's doing.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, and the beautiful thing is like this, if you could've done it any

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better in any other way, you would've.

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Yeah.

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So fundamentally, you've got it right all along to the best extent you could.

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And you're still breathing, so you got it right to that extent.

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Right?

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So fundamentally, all the mistakes you made is like,

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okay, doing the best I could.

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Okay, now I understand why that was the best I could.

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Now I understand why that was necessary.

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So it's a lot easier to accept it.

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A lot easier to forgive yourself for it, right?

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And when you can understand, accept, forgive, and integrate all those

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different parts of yourself than you don't have to judge yourself anymore.

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Yeah, you don't have to be afraid of any parts of yourself anymore, which means you

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get to actually be you who you truly are.

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You don't have to wear a mask anymore.

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And the beautiful thing about that is when you're wearing a mask, the world

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can only give you with the person you're pretending to be once and needs.

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So even if you get it right, even you acted it really, really well,

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you don't get what you need.

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So even when you And you lose, yeah.

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The only way to really get what you want in life is to show the world who you

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really are and what you really need.

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But that means it has to be okay.

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Yeah.

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Vulnerable.

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State.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, dude, Ryan, I really appreciate that.

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That is super powerful because it's like how many times do we hold back because

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we're afraid who we are and what we offer isn't enough, or it will be, you

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know, we rejected by those around us.

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So I love the fact of, you know, you talking about, Hey, I can

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show up as my true and genuine self when I'm not having to, um.

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Battle those fears, you know, that are subconsciously keeping me in

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that rut that we talked about.

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Yeah.

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. Well, Ryan, how can guys connect with you outside of the podcast

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if they're like, Hey, I, I wanna reach out and get more info on this.

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Outstanding.

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So first place, I wrote a book called Winner Peace.

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How to end in conflict, make success available.

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It will take you through this process that I talked about to get you to that

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place where that is your core belief set.

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Nothing wrong with me, nothing heal good enough, don't have to prevail to

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the extent that a book can right now.

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Obviously book can only take you so far, right?

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But a lot of times that's gonna move you in the right direction

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or a big, big way, right?

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Because it's designed to help you start reframing a lot of stuff that

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you're, that you're struggling with.

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Once you're ready, really dive in.

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My website is www.ryanthehypnotist.com.

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For, for free, 45 minute conversation, uh, consultations.

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Come and sit down.

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Take a look at what your life, what's been going on.

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I'll show you what's been going on and why things are the way we're, so you

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actually understand what's been happening.

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And that's, that's really vital by itself.

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And then we can talk about how to get you where you wanna be.

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Awesome, Ryan, I appreciate it.

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Thank you so much, my friend.

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And, uh, yeah, being able to discern what's directing us and guiding

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us, uh, is such a powerful tool.

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So thank you, Ryan.

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Well, you're quite welcome.

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Been an absolute pleasure to be here.

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Thank you.

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My pleasure.

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Living Fearless Today
Helping men live fully alive, boldly and courageously
Do you feel overwhelmed when making decisions? Struggle to take action in your personal life or career? Think you're alone in these situations? You're not! In fact, you're in good company. 
 
I'm Mike Forrester, host of the Living Fearless Today podcast. Join me as I interview other men who triumphed over their own adversities, learn how they did it and where they are today. So that whatever you're facing, know others fought the same battle and have conquered those challenges. They are now encouraging you and me to live our life boldly and courageously alongside them.
 
Let's disprove the lie that we're the only one who's going through this situation, that no one knows what it's like. You're not alone in the struggle you're working through. As men, we have more in common in our journey than you might want to believe.
 
Join me here each Tuesday for the interview and then again on Friday as I spotlight the lessons learned. How we can apply them to become the confident and courageous man we're wanting to be - for ourselves, our wife and our children.
 
Be sure to give a follow to the Living Fearless Today podcast on your favorite platform. I look forward to being with you during the next episode.

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Mike Forrester

Mike Forrester is a men's transformation coach, founder of the Living Fearless coaching programs, and host of the Living Fearless Today podcast. His insights, methods and stories of overcoming childhood trauma, dyslexia and loss of loved ones have been featured on various podcasts, including Hanging Onto Hope, Extreme Health, Own Your Life Own Your Career and Think Unbroken.